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post Mar 12 2005, 03:48 AM
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IF YOU ARE A VICTIM OF SURF JUNKY... READ THIS.


e-mail this letter to

headsurfer@ev1.net <(CEO of EV1 Servers) and osc@ev1.net <(Manager of Customer support)

They might be able to ignore 1 or 2 people... but they cant ignore millions...

Dear Ev1Servers.net Staff,

***Surfjunky.com is in violation of your AUP policy

5. Fraudulent activity: Use of EV1Servers service to make fraudulent offers to sell or buy products, items, or services, or to advance any type of financial scam such as "pyramid schemes," "ponzi schemes," and "chain letters." ***

This e-mail is regarding one of the web sites that you host on your servers. http://www.surfjunky.com. This "company" supposedly pays $.45 cents an hour to view their ad pool. The minimum pay out is $25 and when you reach around $20-25 dollars they ban your account and accuse you of cheating. I have e-mailed them several times and they do not even respond. They are ripping innocent people out of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!! Their figures are mathematically impossible to maintain a thriving business. Please help the millions of people getting ripped off by this service hosted on YOUR SERVERS. Here is a detailed explanation on how SurfJunky.com could never work.


How is it a scam?

Simply put, you are supposed to get paid to surf. Surfjunky.com however does not and will never pay you. So to reach their minimum $25 pay out, you need to surf for 55.5 hours. You work for almost 56 hours and get paid nothing. If this is not a scam I don’t know what is.

How do you know it is a scam?

Well first off the mathematics behind the site are simply impossible. The site charges advertisers using the following pay schedule:

* 100,000 Visitors - $29.95
* 250,000 Visitors - $59.95
* 500,000 Visitors - $99.95
* 1,000,000 Visitors - $189.95

Let’s just start with the minimum amount of 100,000 visits for about $30.00. So that means an advertiser is paying approximately $0.0003 per visit... right? ($30/100 000)

Now a member of surfjunky.com gets paid $0.45 per hour of surfing. The member can surf a maximum of 120 pages per hour (Each page must be viewed for 30 seconds, no multiple windows are allowed. So that is 2 pages per minute, 60 minutes per hour, which equals 120 visits per hour MAX)

Are you still following? Good!

Now go back to our advertising rate of $0.0003 per visit. Multiply this by 120 visits. That means that for 120 visits to his/her web site a webmaster is paying ONLY $0.036.

So the advertiser is paying $0.036, or just under four cents, for every 120 visitors to his/her web site. However, surfjunky.com is suppose to be paying its members $0.45, or 45 cents, per 120 pages visited.

That means either, 1) surfjunky.com is the worst business in the world and is planning on taking a loss $0.414 or 1250% for every hour a visitor surfs or 2) surfjunky.com is a scam site that never intends on paying its users.

To further amplify this loss consider this. Once a user reaches the minimum $25 pay out, surfjunky.com has only made $1.99 from that user (they make $0.036 per hour times 55.5 hours to reach pay out of $25). So surfjunky.com is actually taking a loss of $23.01 per pay out.

So with a loss of $23 per user. Multiplied by approximately 500,000 registered users at last count, surfjunky.com will be recording a loss of $11,500,000 once members reach pay out.

Now I don’t want to seem to be over exaggerating because it hurts my credibility. So let’s assume only 1 in 10... no 1 in 100... no wait 1 in 1000 users actually make it to pay out without cheating, getting bored and stopping, etc. The company will still be taking a loss of $15,000 each pay out cycle. That is a loss of $15,000 EACH and EVERY month!

So even if surfjunky.com fully intends on paying all users, and does not want to be a scam, the fact of the matter is paying them is impossible! It just won’t happen! They will go bankrupt before 1 pay out is made

More Scam Proof

The following web sites go into detail about the surfjunky.com scam, including who may be behind it, previous scams pulled by the same individual, etc.

http://merkey.net/surfjunky/

http://blindecho.net/surfjunky/

Further information about this scam will be posted as updates become available

Help Shut Surfjunky.com Down!!


Your help is appreciated,

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post Mar 12 2005, 11:51 PM
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post Mar 13 2005, 12:03 AM
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Incredible... But if surfjunky is committing fraudulent business practices, why aren't the authorities involved/contacted? Why are we sending emails to some CEO rather than a government agent or something? (Not trying to underestimate the magnitude of emailing the CEO, but just curious...)
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:55 AM
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QUOTE (batman129 @ Mar 13 2005, 05:03 AM)
Incredible... But if surfjunky is committing fraudulent business practices, why aren't the authorities involved/contacted? Why are we sending emails to some CEO rather than a government agent or something? (Not trying to underestimate the magnitude of emailing the CEO, but just curious...)
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Funny that you brought this up. I already filed a claim with the FBI. wink.gif

If you want to file a claim you can do so @ http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
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post Mar 13 2005, 01:02 PM
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I think the real key here is that your simple math calculations should have been done BEFORE you signed up for SurfJunky.
The fact of the matter is that scams on the internet will always exist, and the FBI, etc. are only able to do so much to prevent people from being hit by them.

There needs to be more evaluation of a program before everyone jumps onboard.


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QUOTE (Referral Hunter @ Mar 13 2005, 01:02 PM)
I think the real key here is that your simple math calculations should have been done  BEFORE you signed up for SurfJunky.
The fact of the matter is that scams on the internet will always exist, and the FBI, etc. are only able to do so much to prevent people from being hit by them.

There needs to be more evaluation of a program before everyone jumps onboard.
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post Mar 13 2005, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (Referral Hunter @ Mar 13 2005, 06:02 PM)
I think the real key here is that your simple math calculations should have been done  BEFORE you signed up for SurfJunky.
The fact of the matter is that scams on the internet will always exist, and the FBI, etc. are only able to do so much to prevent people from being hit by them.

There needs to be more evaluation of a program before everyone jumps onboard.
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I agree.... I was signing up for a friend and I didnt really look into it. We all fall victim of a scam some time in our life... but the reason I reported it to the FBI wasnt because I fell victim of a scam... it was because there will be MANY more that fall into this scam and I would like to try my best to take them out.
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post Mar 16 2005, 03:30 PM
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start sending those letters guys
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post Mar 17 2005, 07:45 PM
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surfjunky is down!! Let's all hope it stays this way.
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post Mar 19 2005, 03:28 PM
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Okay guys, we shut them down the first time. Now, for the second time.

I did a tracert on surfjunky.com and I got this >>
17 49 ms 50 ms 49 ms ip-d88bd0d9.shfw-a.dedicatedcentral.com [216.139.208.217]

Which tells us.. all the e-mail's to EV1 servers worked because they shut them off. Now we need to send those same letters to dedicatedcentral.com. Go ahead and forward those e-mail's to: legal@dedicatedcentral.com, and abuse@DedicatedCentral.com
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post Mar 24 2005, 05:10 PM
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I'm up to almost $45 on SurfJunky right now. I've been going by the book (well, sort of) just to see if they are legit. Lets concentrate on getting the refs we need to get our legit offers, and I'll let you know if I get paid in about 3 weeks.


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post Mar 25 2005, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (leonjr1964 @ Mar 24 2005, 10:10 PM)
I'm up to almost $45 on SurfJunky right now. I've been going by the book (well, sort of) just to see if they are legit. Lets concentrate on getting the refs we need to get our legit offers, and I'll let you know if I get paid in about 3 weeks.
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arrowhead.png are you serious? They are a scam. They still havent paid anyone...
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post Apr 2 2005, 10:41 PM
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I've been paid. Once, but then I got banned. But I'm up to $120.24.


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i dont think you were. your a freshie.
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post Apr 2 2005, 11:09 PM
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What's that have to do with anything? Just because I joined this board a little while ago means I didn't get paid?


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QUOTE (Kane Knight @ Apr 3 2005, 05:41 AM)
I've been paid. Once, but then I got banned. But I'm up to $120.24.
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Show us to them evidence of payments of Surffjunky
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I don't keep photocopies of checks.


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