WhatsMyLine
Oct 17 2009, 11:26 PM
1. Crediting Time- N/A
2. Price- $50
3. Unauthorized charges- N/A
4. Terms & Conditions (Straightforward or Misleading)- N/A
5. Overall opinion of offer:
So far, so crappy. I did it on Free4me, it's worth 2 credits. So far, I installed the software then signed up. I tried to make a deposit with my debit card, which was declined. I opted for a instant check payment instead, so I did all that. Then, I tried to login and it keeps saying 'login or password is wrong'. Requested a new password, still didn't work. Ughhh. So I check my e-mail to see I have 4 e-mails from them.
1st says- Mastercard deposit- declined.
2nd- Mastercard deposit- processing.
3rd- Instant echecks- processing.
4th- Instant echeck- declined.
I have no idea what to make of it. Can't log in still, e-mailed support. I'll continue this as it unfolds and update if I ever manage to get it to work.
T_o_m
Oct 17 2009, 11:53 PM
Keep us updated as Im planning to do this offer too. Thanks
Joeker
Oct 18 2009, 07:59 AM
Im removing all advice ive given on this site because its a scam and they dont pay.
butterboy2524
Oct 20 2009, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (Joeker @ Oct 18 2009, 08:59 AM)

Instant e-check also went under because our government doesnt allow us to gamble online (certain states are aloud I believe, but I think visa and mastercard declines them anyway). The only way to bypass this at the moment is to head to walmart or giant eagle and buy a prepaid visa. Of course this makes cashing out a problem, so you'd have to request a cheque in the mail and they wont process anything below $50.00 usd.
Lots of good information in your post, but again, as I replied back the last time you posted this, it is NOT true. I and plenty of others have done several gambling offers, including this one, and have been able to use the e-check feature and/or credit cards. It depends on the TOS of your bank just as it depends on the TOS of your credit card.
EDIT - also, if you try the e-check feature and your information such as name and address don't match EXACTLY what is on your bank account, you will most likely be declined.
WhatsMyLine
Oct 21 2009, 03:37 AM
Mine matched exact to my bank, but it didn't work for some reason.
I got a message back from support. (I e-mailed cause I couldn't log in.) They asked for me to send them a copy of my ID, a copy of a bill, and a picture of my credit card. Someone else can take the reigns on this discussion, I'm not doing all that. Hopefully someone else has better luck.
Joeker
Oct 21 2009, 05:48 AM
Im removing all advice ive given on this site because its a scam and they dont pay.
stickerz
Oct 21 2009, 12:49 PM
maybe you live in states that dont allow it .. ? just a thought
WhatsMyLine
Oct 21 2009, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (kinneylamb @ Oct 21 2009, 01:49 PM)

maybe you live in states that dont allow it .. ? just a thought
Nope.
butterboy2524
Oct 28 2009, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (Joeker @ Oct 21 2009, 06:48 AM)

Lol I'm done posting in this section. I keep getting yelled at

No one yelled at you, if you don't want to read facts and others' opinions, don't post.
QUOTE (missys1 @ Oct 21 2009, 04:37 AM)

Someone else can take the reigns on this discussion, I'm not doing all that. Hopefully someone else has better luck.
You should consider yourself lucky! Here's the answer I got from support about getting 100 player points:
QUOTE
Full Tilt is a bit more difficult to complete since it won't credit until you've hit the required amount of player points. I can't say that you will make it in $50, we've had some people have to deposit double and triple that before they coudl reach the needed points.
Cangri787
Nov 10 2009, 05:29 PM
Anyone knows how much player points u get when u deposit the $50?
butterboy2524
Nov 10 2009, 05:52 PM
QUOTE (Cangri787 @ Nov 10 2009, 05:29 PM)

Anyone knows how much player points u get when u deposit the $50?
You don't get any. Player points are earned by winning poker games that you play.
Cangri787
Nov 10 2009, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (butterboy2524 @ Nov 10 2009, 06:52 PM)

You don't get any. Player points are earned by winning poker games that you play.
Thanks butterboy2524 for the quick response
Twon
Nov 10 2009, 06:15 PM
Do you have to win games or just play games?
butterboy2524
Nov 10 2009, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Cangri787 @ Nov 10 2009, 06:09 PM)

Thanks butterboy2524 for the quick response
Sure thing!
QUOTE (Twon @ Nov 10 2009, 06:15 PM)

Do you have to win games or just play games?
OK, this is what I have found after MUCH searching of the Full Tilt site, because they keep this very well hidden.
Player points are earned in "games" by winning hands only. The points earned are very meager in what you spend to play, unless you are an extremely good or lucky player. I played a total of 4 hours on a very low buy-in table, did pretty well, and spent $15, but earned only 10 player points.
BUT, player points are also earned based on the entry fees paid to play in a tournament. You get 7 player points for each $1 in tournament fees that you pay. You can enter into a tournament for as little as $5, BUT you have to actually play in the tournament to get the player points. So you would earn player points for entering into and playing in the tournament, whether you win or lose.
Also, they have Happy Hours, where if you play in certain events during Happy Hour you get double the player points.
I am going to be testing all this tomorrow morning as I paid to be in a tournament very early tomorrow morning. Wish me luck and I will report back here on what I find.
butterboy2524
Nov 14 2009, 02:24 PM
Well, scratch my above post. I re-read the earn points terms and looks like playing ring games during happy hours is the best way to get points. You earn the points whether you win or lose the game. And for tournaments, you only earn points on the actual fee, not on the buy-in amount.
I have spent hours on this offer and still only have 40 points, and I will have to deposit more money to get to 100.
Here is the definition of rake as used in the points terms - rake
Rake is the percentage of a pot that the house collects as compensation for hosting a game. At Full Tilt Poker the maximum rake in ring games is $3, with a minimum pot size needed for any rake. The only exception is a hand completed where players have chosen to use Run it Twice, where maximum rake is $4.
Earning Points
Start earning Full Tilt Points by playing in any qualifying raked real-money hand in a ring game or a real-money Multi-Table Tournament or Sit & Go with a tournament fee:
Ring Games: For each dollar raked from a pot, every player who was dealt cards for that hand will receive 1 Full Tilt Point. For example, if $2.00 in rake is taken from a pot, each player who was dealt cards will receive 2 points. Fractional points are also awarded; if $2.25 in rake is taken, players will receive 2.25 points. A maximum of 3 points can be earned per hand.
Tournaments: For every dollar paid in Multi-Table Tournament or Sit & Go fees, you'll receive 7 Full Tilt Points. There is no limit to the number of points you can earn per tournament. For example, if you play in a tournament with a $10 buy-in and a $1 tournament fee, you'll receive 7 points; if you play in a tournament with a $200 buy-in and a $16 tournament fee, you'll receive 112 points.
stickerz
Nov 19 2009, 05:13 AM
this is almost a bad offer because of the points thing, if you traded with someone who's waiting for your green
Jeez
Nov 19 2009, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (missys1 @ Oct 17 2009, 11:26 PM)

1. Crediting Time- N/A
2. Price- $50
3. Unauthorized charges- N/A
4. Terms & Conditions (Straightforward or Misleading)- N/A
5. Overall opinion of offer:
So far, so crappy. I did it on Free4me, it's worth 2 credits. So far, I installed the software then signed up. I tried to make a deposit with my debit card, which was declined. I opted for a instant check payment instead, so I did all that. Then, I tried to login and it keeps saying 'login or password is wrong'. Requested a new password, still didn't work. Ughhh. So I check my e-mail to see I have 4 e-mails from them.
1st says- Mastercard deposit- declined.
2nd- Mastercard deposit- processing.
3rd- Instant echecks- processing.
4th- Instant echeck- declined.
I have no idea what to make of it. Can't log in still, e-mailed support. I'll continue this as it unfolds and update if I ever manage to get it to work.
Thank you for this info. I was considering it too...
-Jeez
butterboy2524
Nov 19 2009, 03:19 PM
QUOTE (kinneylamb @ Nov 19 2009, 05:13 AM)

this is almost a bad offer because of the points thing, if you traded with someone who's waiting for your green
Well, I wouldn't go that far. You need to plan a strategy to play during happy hour and fold your hands that don't qualify to play under "tight poker" because you still earn points even if you fold.
It is a time-consuming offer for sure and if you are not really good at poker, it may not be worth it.
I did have a lot of fun!
stickerz
Nov 22 2009, 12:39 AM
we should give each other our usernames, then create a tournament so we can play against each other
Twon
Nov 25 2009, 09:31 AM
I'll play! Where do I find my player points? I can't see them anywhere. Pretty easy to use actually (other than the location of my points). I was playing the ring games .05 - .10. Had some good hand won a few. I lost one big one to pocket rockets.
stickerz
Nov 25 2009, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Twon @ Nov 25 2009, 09:31 AM)

I'll play! Where do I find my player points? I can't see them anywhere. Pretty easy to use actually (other than the location of my points). I was playing the ring games .05 - .10. Had some good hand won a few. I lost one big one to pocket rockets.

you are gonna be dissappointed when you find your player points. it is in the cashier > summary
Twon
Nov 25 2009, 08:26 PM
I can't check because I am at work... However, I had a blast playing today. I played for about 2 hours and broke even. I consider that a success seeing as how I have never played online for money before. I actually just look forward to playing again and really don't care how long the points take to get.
stickerz
Nov 25 2009, 08:31 PM
good cause it's gonna take a longg time. i did this as part of a trade and my trader has patience, thank goodness
Twon
Nov 25 2009, 08:34 PM
How long has it taken you so far? How many points do you have? How much are you playing?
butterboy2524
Nov 25 2009, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (Twon @ Nov 25 2009, 08:26 PM)

I consider that a success seeing as how I have never played online for money before. I actually just look forward to playing again and really don't care how long the points take to get.

That's the attitude to have, if you are doing well. I have known people who got their 100 points with the initial deposit because they did well. However, the average player will have to deposit more money, ($30 minimum for me) so it is also important to have a strategy for gaining points to try to avoid this, like playing in tomorrow's triple points happy hour from 3 to 8.
Since the points are based on how much the house rakes from the pot, whether you win or not doesn't matter as far as points go, though of course you want to win! Even if you fold your hand, you get points for that particular game based on the rake.
It took me 18 hours of playing ring games, mostly during happy hours, to get 103 points and I had $10 left over. But, I folded a lot of hands since I was playing tight poker, which makes the pot smaller and, therefore, less points gained.
stickerz
Nov 26 2009, 02:08 AM
ive been playing over 1 week, and it took a lot of learning on how to get more points faster, for the sake of the offer requirements and going green. i still have to get like 70% of my points and i will make more deposits to get them.
if you have a lot of money to spend on this offer, you can just play touraments and earn 7 points for every $1 in tourament fees, but you will probably deposit up to $200 because the fees are so little for each tournament.
thanks butterboy for your help and tips, it helped a lot. i cant wait to go green and just enjoy this offer and play for money without thinking about the points. btw the real purpose of the points is to buy stuff in the full tilt store, i guess that is why it takes a while to earn them
stickerz
Dec 4 2009, 07:26 AM
ok i figured out how to earn 100 points pretty fast, butterboy's tips helped a lot and what she said is all true, happy hours are the best, play at a low risk level, and play multiple tables. you will be done within a couple of days if you play for an hour each day
scwoster
Dec 18 2009, 12:17 PM
I had fun completing this. All it took me was 3 hours with the happy hour bonus. I was playing two tables of no limit .10/.25. All I played were small hands and let everyone else push in. The points go up pretty fast. I just had to raise against blinds once and a while to stay playing. And I still have $25 in there to play with.
Twon
Dec 18 2009, 12:24 PM
I have $2.50 left... LOL
I had a lot of fun. I was done about a week ago. I still play every day with my $2.50 in the ring .05/.10 games.
Joeker
Dec 25 2009, 05:36 AM
Im removing all advice ive given on this site because its a scam and they dont pay.
stickerz
Dec 25 2009, 02:31 PM
some of those tips dont exactly work when you are trying to earn 100 points with a $50 deposit. but i dont feel like explaining it anymore. i got my points! lol good luck to the others who try!
Twon
Dec 25 2009, 03:56 PM
Look. If you like playing/watching poker, you're going to like this offers. Plus it's worth 2 credits at free4me. Some people get the 100 points fast, some take their time. Big deal. It's a quality offer and it credits well.
butterboy2524
Dec 26 2009, 08:21 AM
QUOTE (Joeker @ Dec 25 2009, 05:36 AM)

I just tried explaining this but was basically told to shut up so I did. Since of course people only wish to state facts and tell others to shut their mouth, ill post exactly what it says on the site and then once again shut up.
•Ring Games: For each dollar raked from a pot, every player who was dealt cards for that hand will receive 1 Full Tilt Point. For example, if $2.00 in rake is taken from a pot, each player who was dealt cards will receive 2 points. Fractional points are also awarded; if $2.25 in rake is taken, players will receive 2.25 points. A maximum of 3 points can be earned per hand.
•Tournaments: For every dollar paid in Multi-Table Tournament or Sit & Go fees, you'll receive 7 Full Tilt Points. There is no limit to the number of points you can earn per tournament. For example, if you play in a tournament with a $10 buy-in and a $1 tournament fee, you'll receive 7 points; if you play in a tournament with a $200 buy-in and a $16 tournament fee, you'll receive 112 points.
Again, ill probably be told to shut up again so I wont post after 'helping'. But here you go. Its really not hard to earn the points. Play .25/.50 for 100 hands and you have the points. just fold every hand if you want it doesnt matter. You get a point as long as the total amount of the pot exceeds $1.00 and you were dealt in. Join a 9 player table (blinds go around you get hit twice per round with a big and small). Within in an hour you can do 100 hands and get ur points. But like I said my wisdom is not wanted and obviously not needed so again ill shut up.
Again, you are wrong in what you state, but since you obviously have a big ego, this is for you.

Points are NOT awarded based on the size of the pot, but what the house rakes from the pot. A $1.00 pot is going to have a very small rake (there's a chart at the Full Tilt site that shows how the rakes are calculated) and, therefore, only a fraction of a point will be awarded each player in the game. Unless the pots are pretty large, it is going to take a lot more than 100 hands and an hour to earn 100 points.
The Happy Hour promo was slated to end this month, don't know if Full Tilt will have another one.
ninjareaper14
Jan 3 2010, 05:52 PM
edited...lol this didnt credit for me probably because I earned the points to fast and used all the advice they didnt credit me
butterboy2524
Jan 3 2010, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (ninjareaper14 @ Jan 3 2010, 05:52 PM)

ok I was mainly following butterboy and joekers advice which was:
wait for happy hour today it was at 2PM this doubles your tilt points that you earn
play at a 9 person table (ring game) that way the rakes are higher
when I was playing I couldnt play more than $.50/1 or I would lose money I lost at least $10 at the $1/2 tables, after I started using the advice posted in this thread I was able to break even and it took about 1 hour to gain 25 tilt points
That's cool, ninja, some people played 2 tables at once to get points more quickly, but with my up and down routine here taking care of all these furkids, I couldn't do that.
ninjareaper14
Jan 3 2010, 08:38 PM
same thing...edited
also dont want to post a guide how to get points to be safe
butterboy2524
Jan 3 2010, 08:41 PM
QUOTE (ninjareaper14 @ Jan 3 2010, 08:38 PM)

hmm now Im losing more money than before maybe I should be betting ring games for .$05/.10
Just fold everything but "tight poker" hands or hands you are positive you can win. You still get your points if you fold.
EDIT - play nothing lower than the top-rated 10 hands, myself I play nothing rated under .50
http://www.tightpoker.com/poker_hands.html
stickerz
Jan 3 2010, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (ninjareaper14 @ Jan 3 2010, 08:38 PM)

hmm now Im losing more money than before maybe I should be betting ring games for .$05/.10
you should only bet ring games if you are trying to get your points. and play tight like butterboy said. once you get your points, play however you want
butterboy2524
Jan 3 2010, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (kinneylamb @ Jan 3 2010, 11:03 PM)

you should only bet ring games if you are trying to get your points. and play tight like butterboy said. once you get your points, play however you want
Well, he is playing ring games, 9 player table, he just meant switch to that lower table from the one he is playing.
ninjareaper14
Jan 9 2010, 11:53 PM
lol edited
stickerz
Jan 11 2010, 02:40 AM
open more than one table at once, thats another tip
Twon
Jan 11 2010, 11:16 AM
Have fun. That's the best tip of all...
butterboy2524
Jan 11 2010, 11:18 AM
QUOTE (Twon @ Jan 11 2010, 11:16 AM)

Have fun. That's the best tip of all...

LOL, yeah, but don't lose your shirt in doing so!
Joeker
Jan 13 2010, 04:01 PM
Im removing all advice ive given on this site because its a scam and they dont pay.
Chad McDaniel
Feb 15 2010, 02:32 AM
Just curious... has this offer been crediting good or bad? I haven't found that anywhere, just how to earn points quickly.
I earned my 100pts in about 5-6 hours, of which the first 2 hours were spent playing tournaments where i spent $25 and earned a whopping 20 points. Then i realized it was ridiculous hard to earn points that way and started playing ring games, and ended up earning all of my points within a few hours, and still ended with $20 left. I was actually up A LOT at one point, but someone got really lucky against me is all i can say. They had no business being in the hand... and then got extremely lucky when i called their bluff.
Also, my advise for earning points... play in a ring game that is almost too expensive to play in (play at happy hour for the most points). Since you don't have to actually play in a hand to earn points from it, just have to be dealt in to it, you earn huge points if you play in a real high ante game, you earn more points per hand.
Oh... and bluff....bluff a lot! That is how i got all my money! Buy in to the table with the normal table amount, wait around until you get a great hand, and play big. Then, once you get a big stack of money, play as the table bully and bluff tons of hands when you are playing with someone who doesn't have much money!
Anyways.... so does it credit well or not?
stickerz
Feb 15 2010, 02:43 AM
it was crediting great until 2 people did not receive credit around the same time, recently. the bad part about that, is that free4me supposedly worked directly with them, in order to give you credit. so its messed up that they did not get credit. full tilt claimed they did not sign up thru free4me, with some website code or something like that
QUOTE (Joeker @ Jan 13 2010, 04:01 PM)

Im removing all advice ive given on this site because its a scam and they dont pay.
can you elaborate?
butterboy2524
Feb 15 2010, 02:57 AM
QUOTE (Chad McDaniel @ Feb 15 2010, 02:32 AM)

Just curious... has this offer been crediting good or bad? I haven't found that anywhere, just how to earn points quickly.
Oh... and bluff....bluff a lot! That is how i got all my money! Buy in to the table with the normal table amount, wait around until you get a great hand, and play big. Then, once you get a big stack of money, play as the table bully and bluff tons of hands when you are playing with someone who doesn't have much money!
Anyways.... so does it credit well or not?
Bluffing won't always work, it just depends on the balls of the other players. I played for about 2 hours as the table bully one night, it was fun.
The offer is manually credited, so except for 2 people who seem to have gotten ripped off, not sure by whom, the offer crediting rate would seem to be 98%.
ninjareaper14
Feb 15 2010, 03:52 AM
nvm doesnt matter
stickerz
Feb 15 2010, 04:14 AM
wtf.. butterboy was correct in saying what she said. simple
butterboy2524
Feb 15 2010, 08:06 AM
QUOTE (ninjareaper14 @ Feb 15 2010, 03:52 AM)

bluffing is part of the game, its just like penalties in basketball games, dont read to deeply into it or make asinine statements
even though you are posing your rhetorical question from a stance of total ignorance, I will attempt answer you
yes I was the second person ever not to receive credit, it is true and I am aware of it, I even was the one that told you that had happened, so I am not lying and how is what I told you the evidence your using for the statement of disbelief you are making
I assume your asking, where did the money go that was previously in my bank account? to Full Tilt poker of course!!! actually I was...(ripped-off- as you put it) because I was told I would receive $92 unfortunately and I paid $50 for a net loss of $-46, believe it or not they have paid everyone this $46 except 2 people ever in the history of humankind!!!
(because of me?) even though this is not my fault, again despite your rhetorical allusion to your first question the answer is still yes, and I am still the 2nd person ever to not receive credit that part hasnt changed either!! despite how stupid and asinine your question is, keep asking one thing I learned in school is keep asking questions it only helps!!
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